Prenatal Care in Spain: Challenges
We had another OB visit today with our third doctor. About two months ago I contacted our insurance company to ask if there was a private hospital with a neonatal intensive care unit, just in case a problem would arise that might require hospitalization for Isabela (as happened with Josiah).
I was told that yes, there is one hospital in a suburb of Sevilla, but in order to go there I would have to be attended by the doctors in a specific office. So we had our first visit there with Dr. Rodriguez five weeks ago and again today. She is young and was nice and assured us that the NICU at the private hospital is much better than that at the public hospital. At our first visit we accepted another ultrasound and didn’t question anything she ordered or said.
Today, however, was different. Although at one time I touted the importance of every pregnant woman in our office doing the routine one-hour glucose tolerance test, I decided to follow the advice of my midwives and instead of downing 50gm of pure sugar in 5 minutes, then having my blood tested an hour later, I did what is called a 2-hr post-prandial (after eating) glucose test at the pharmacy.
I agreed with the midwives we have been seeing on the side that 1) I was not at risk for gestational diabetes, 2) I had no signs of gestational diabetes, and 3) downing that much sugar in one setting was not natural, would make me feel sick and we don’t know what affect it could have on the baby. I did a little more research on the accuracy of the 2hr PP test and found that in several trials, the results of the two tests were similar enough (within 5 – 10 points, I believe) to be considered accurate. My result was well within normal so I wasn’t concerned about the accuracy.
Of course, the doctor was none-too-thrilled to hear that I had made this decision. She was shocked that I chose to do it this way and argued with me about the inaccuracy of it.
Then it came to the ultrasound. As she stood from her desk and motioned me to the exam table, we paused and I told her that I prefer to avoid any more ultrasounds unless they are medically necessary. Shocked again, she sat down, looked at me and said “Why would you want to avoid ultrasounds?” I told her I wasn’t comfortable with the risk (which she quickly dismissed stating emphatically that it is only sound, there is no risk); and then tried to say that repeated ultrasounds, as are done in Spain, are not recommended in the U.S. (I think I got that out, not sure; and if I did she dismissed it).
She argued that of any time, today was most important to make sure baby had grown well. Samuel asked her if she could measure my uterus using her hands to which she gafawed and said, “You’re asking me to practice medicine from ages ago.” (as the doctors and midwives in the U.S. do!) She went on to say that she would not be responsible if something bad happened if we made this decision, and a few other things I didn’t catch because she spoke so fast. I hated the tension this created and was ready to give in to avoid fighting any longer. I also thought maybe she was saying if I refused this then she wouldn’t see me again; and I didn’t want to deal with the stress of finding yet another doctor to argue with.
She then told me about the labs she wanted to order next: a 24-hr urine collection to check for protein (a sign of preeclampsia), and other blood tests (again for signs of preeclampsia). I was still so flustered that I didn’t really hear what she was saying as I was trying to settle my mind and decide what to do. At one point she asked, “Do you agree?” and I said yes. I figured she was asking about doing the labs, but may have been asking about the ultrasound – either way, I just didn’t want to fight anymore, or be labeled “the crazy patient.”
She stood up again, and said she was ready to do the test, Samuel asked which test she was referring to and she responded, “An ultrasound”. He firmly, yet respectfully, said, “No.” She accepted this; quickly wrote something in my chart, looked at my belly across the desk and said I looked to be growing fine, and told the nurse to give me an appointment in another 5 weeks and we said our farewell.
It was so uncomfortable and I hated that feeling; but I am glad Samuel was there and he stood up for what we had decided ahead of time. When I got home I did more reading about current recommendations, accuracy and the usefulness of routine ultrasound and was validated in what I already knew to be true.
It is unsettling to be told one thing when I know and believe another. And I imagine that is how it was for her, too. I can remember a handful of our patients who would challenge the norm and I was puzzled by them: those who declined the one routine ultrasound offered or preferred the use of a fetoscope over a doppler to listen to the baby’s heart, and one woman whom we saw up to almost 40 weeks, and had no record of delivering we later found out she had chosen a home birth!
But at that time I was part of the system of the “norm,” and didn’t question why we did what we did. My own personal experiences – especially in a culture where the “norm” is way more medicalized than how we practiced in our office – has challenged and encouraged me to question “why?,” to consider alternatives, and to investigate and research more for myself. I now deeply respect those women by whom I was once puzzled, and I hope that just maybe, our “contra-corriente” (against the current) decisions will encourage our care providers to question “why?” they do what they do.
It may be only a drop in the ocean, but I am proud that we were able to add at least that one drop today.
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I’d just like to underline the statement Robyn made that the doctors we have visited tend to practice medicine that is, “way more medicalized than how [Robyn and the doctors she worked with] practiced in [their] office”.
We don’t know every doctor in Spain and I am sure there are some that practice less interventional medicine than those we have visited so far. Robyn was lucky to practice with doctors who did not take the most medicalized approach to medicine (although we are coming to question some of the medical interventions they used routinely – like the one-hour glucose tolerance test mentioned above).
Our traumatic experience at the time of Josiah’s birth has led us to read, research, talk to professionals and ask abundant questions of the medical profession regarding care during pregnancy and birth. I don’t believe either of us would have been so inspired to learn had our previous experience been different.
If Robyn had had a normal vaginal birth experience with Josiah, even if there had been some small (in comparison) interventions we didn’t feel comfortable with like an episiotomy, we would probably be in “the system” following the doctors orders once again. People (even nurses, as Robyn can attest to) do not often question the way things are done. This time around we have been asking some hard questions and getting some startling answers.
Both Spain & The United States on the whole treat pregnancy as a sickness that must be treated, monitored, and carefully controlled. We recognize that there are cases where sickness and pregnancy coalesce and at these times medicalized, interventional medicine can and does save lives. We’ve lived through all the fear and reality of one of these cases first hand! But we also recognize that every child is different and every pregnancy as well.
It is still unknown what the causes of HELLP syndrome are. Some postulate that it may be related to diet, others attribute it to stress, still other studies and theories attribute it to genetics. Whatever the cause we know that our lives are fundamentally different this time around: Robyn is eating better (it’s easier when we buy our own food instead of school cafeteria fare), we have 100% less stress (the training school we attended during her last pregnancy was incredibly stressful for us), we are not traveling long distances into Morocco, we have our own home, our own space, Josiah regularly makes us laugh and play and stop to reflect on the reality of what is happening.
We do not have a single reason to believe that this pregnancy will end the same way that the last one did. So, we have every hope that it will not. But even if it does we also know this: the doctors in Spain are incredibly competent when it comes to interventional medicine. They have all of the latest technology (often newer, more readily accessible, and better maintained due to the socialized medical system) and they know how to use it when it is necessary.
Our complaints with the Spanish medical system have less to do with the competence of Spanish doctors or the technology at their disposal and more to do with their knowledge of when to use it. Unfortunately this is not unique to Spain. As we have been reading and learning we have begun to recognize that The United States (and many other first world countries) are struggling with the same issues.
Doctors have been trained to cure but so few have been trained to prevent. They have been trained to control but not many know how to care. There are of course exceptions (Robyn worked with a few of them) but the system is not designed to create doctors who know how to truly support patients. They do not have the time, the training, or the experience necessary to counsel healthy people through completely natural biological processes.
This is why we have been so excited to discover the midwives who are attending us. While our doctors may not know how to do these things and may think of these ideas as antiquated and dangerous (anything unknown seems dangerous) we are excited to have these women. They remember the forgotten art of laying hands on a woman to measure the size of a baby (something the WHO, ACOG and even the doctors from Robyn’s practice have recommended), they know how to avoid potentially dangerous interventions by spending more time listening, educating and caring.
The science of medicine is an incredibly important and powerful tool that saves lives but even it can be dangerous if the art of medicine is lost. And that is a lesson that every modernized country now has to face.
Robyn-
After reading your post, I wonder if the doctor has questioned you about being on your 3rd Dr or not? Do they see it as inconsistent care, or has it not been an issue for them? It has to be terribly frustrating for you both….why can you not stick with the midwives and deliver with them?
~Michele Norton